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	<title>Comments on: All you need to know about your Mac&#8217;s Parental Controls</title>
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		<title>By: demogeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>demogeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yaro - thanks for the thoughtful/detailed response. I don&#039;t intend to be biased but couldn&#039;t control praising the OSX&#039;s implementation and how simple it is for an everyday non-geek to understand and make use of it. I was biasing towards that. And I know all of these controls are not 100% tamper proof. Some can be broken easily and some would need a little nerdy kid. But it was something rather than nothing. And I&#039;m sure that&#039;s the thought process behind these simplistic implementations of parental controls. I was just biasing towards the ease of implementation but thank you so much for your thoughtful comment.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yaro &#8211; thanks for the thoughtful/detailed response. I don&#039;t intend to be biased but couldn&#039;t control praising the OSX&#039;s implementation and how simple it is for an everyday non-geek to understand and make use of it. I was biasing towards that. And I know all of these controls are not 100% tamper proof. Some can be broken easily and some would need a little nerdy kid. But it was something rather than nothing. And I&#039;m sure that&#039;s the thought process behind these simplistic implementations of parental controls. I was just biasing towards the ease of implementation but thank you so much for your thoughtful comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you need to know about ANY PC OS&#039;s parental controls is that the average youngster is definitely smarter then the parental controls. In the ten seconds it took me to read the title I already thought of several ways to bypass it, the most effective being booting a Linux LiveCD and completely breaking the parental control system so it could never be invoked again without knowledge of how it was broken. 
 
Of course, this article reeks of fanboyism (Since it began with a clearly biased comparison between Windows and OS X in OS X&#039;s favor.), so you&#039;re assuming that everything Apple makes is perfect. 
 
You can harden and harden a PC system all you want, but chances are your kids would know exactly how to break into it or circumvent it completely, or even know how to break it completely. 
 
Does OS X use software like shadow to obfuscate and encrypt passwords? Somehow I doubt it. That&#039;s usually the sort of feature Apple loves to leave out of their products. Chances are the kid could EASILY read your password right off the global config, and invoke su -c (Remember, one doesn&#039;t have to be a sudoer or have any sort of special permissions to use su, they just need root passwords.) and give themselves just as much permissions as you (Which would be simply something like making themselves a sudoer.) Once he or she is a sudoer or a part of the wheel (Since OS X is a BSD there should be a wheel in place.) and not even have to worry about placing himself in the sudoers file at all, then you can invoke things like PC all you want, he already has the absolute minimum permissions he would need to simply turn it off. 
 
How naive this article is. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you need to know about ANY PC OS&#039;s parental controls is that the average youngster is definitely smarter then the parental controls. In the ten seconds it took me to read the title I already thought of several ways to bypass it, the most effective being booting a Linux LiveCD and completely breaking the parental control system so it could never be invoked again without knowledge of how it was broken. </p>
<p>Of course, this article reeks of fanboyism (Since it began with a clearly biased comparison between Windows and OS X in OS X&#039;s favor.), so you&#039;re assuming that everything Apple makes is perfect. </p>
<p>You can harden and harden a PC system all you want, but chances are your kids would know exactly how to break into it or circumvent it completely, or even know how to break it completely. </p>
<p>Does OS X use software like shadow to obfuscate and encrypt passwords? Somehow I doubt it. That&#039;s usually the sort of feature Apple loves to leave out of their products. Chances are the kid could EASILY read your password right off the global config, and invoke su -c (Remember, one doesn&#039;t have to be a sudoer or have any sort of special permissions to use su, they just need root passwords.) and give themselves just as much permissions as you (Which would be simply something like making themselves a sudoer.) Once he or she is a sudoer or a part of the wheel (Since OS X is a BSD there should be a wheel in place.) and not even have to worry about placing himself in the sudoers file at all, then you can invoke things like PC all you want, he already has the absolute minimum permissions he would need to simply turn it off. </p>
<p>How naive this article is.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Askar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Askar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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